Fascinating and riveting reading Emerald. The attempts to shape the people’s elective choice for President, in this case JFK, by unelected career bureaucrats of the CIA, is a perverse but reoccurring theme in American Federal Government.
This sounds quite familiar over and over again in history. I think JFK truly learned from this and I think he thought he could truly change the trajectory of government, to his obvious detriment. Yes, there is a DeEp StAtE. God bless JFK...I was a month old when he died in November of 1963.
George Carlin today: “Yes, there is a deep state, and you’re not in it!”
The intelligence committee has been a rogue element from its very inception. It was birth in corruption and has an agenda that purely self serving. Now it is obvious it has become the 4th branch of government who controls the entire political system. Currently one can not remain in politics and oppose the intelligence community.
The FBI will raid your home under falsely accusations arrest you and lock you up along side others who are languishing in the gulags in our nation’s capital.
And so:
Well, well this is extremely timely, reinforcing again the need to abolish the CIA, FBI immediately and with a view of eliminating all other intelligence gathering committees.
The reorganization of these types of intelligence gathering units should be accomplished by the most devoted of peoples those being true Patriots.
Enough already, we don’t need anymore politicians they think we need them because we’re incapable. I will insert this here:
right now everyone is just all in love with DeSantis but, remember you being extremely forgetful and foolish to trust again another politician, DeSantis above all things is another politician; I didn’t say bad I said politician.
We need folks who have good common sense God honoring God fearing people who love this country because it’s right thing to do. Which is to manage and take care of what has been given.
I continue to look to the day and I hope it’s soon when the 70% who are not brain dead will with conviction realize the need to get these rabid leaders out from behind the control levers. And appoint our fellow patriots to represent us.
GREAT research in the past gone pages of history. The operative event here is the assumptions that CIA made to 'commit' JFK to deploy US forces. Everything I always read about this operation preposed the blame on JFK for pulling the air support. But indeed it was way more than that -- when the landing site was changed to a location that had all of the indicators of tactical failure. And fail it did. While JFK did this action (a frivolous decision) -- the CIA (and military Joint Chiefs) all concurred. All of this primarily because the CIA wanted to execute their 'own' foreign policy as opposed to the Commander in Chief and get a "little war" going. Excellent analysis Emerald!
Do I have this straight? Emerald primarily blames Kennedy for allowing the Bay of Pigs to go forward, for naively assuming that the "Deep State" would honor his commitment not to directly intervene and would call off the BoP if it were doomed to failure. Fair enough; the buck stopped at his desk, but he is blamed as well for NOT caving to the "Deep State," not committing to a full scale invasion that arguably would have led to a direct confrontation with the USSR and the potential for thermonuclear war. He had, "let Khrushchev see that he was weak." Eisenhower said he was primarily interested in PR? Where? If Kennedy had been primarily motivated by PR in the US, he would not have accepted the initial blame and embarrassment of failure. He would instead have caved to the "Deep State" and authorized the full US invasion, failure of which could more readily have been blamed on military planners. Instead, he accepted initial responsibility for the failure, though he tried to ameliorate the embarrassment by allowing the TRUTH to slowly come out, that the failure was a result of the "Deep State" attempting to manipulate him into an international crisis. If Eisenhower spoke of Kennedy's concern for PR, perhaps Kennedy had talked about international opinion rather than internal US public opinion. Was Kennedy naive? Yes. Weak? No.
I don't recall much criticism of Trump's naivete (or duplicity?) in allowing "Deep State" globalists to thwart his stated intention to withdraw from Syria. He embraced that manipulation and bragged about "taking their oil" instead of using the Turkish invasion of NE Syria as a face saving way to get out. He need not have appointed John Bolton as NSA, and he could have removed James Jeffrey from his position in Syria. The decision to remain in Syria was Trump's and Trump's alone.
I give Emerald credit for being true to the facts: the duplicity of the "Deep state" and its attempt to manipulate a naive President into intervention in Cuba. However, I'm not sure she fully understands who the enemy was then and is now: the "Deep state," now revealed as globalists -- the permanent bureaucracy including the CIA, FBI and now (as Covid-19 has revealed) HHS, all under the influence of treasonous globalists who meet frequently at the Club of Rome, G-7, WEF, CFR etc. Schwab brags about the placement of globalist Quislings in practically every country. Kennedy showed true courage. Having erred in initially trusting the CIA and military, he refused to be manipulated into full scale, frank intervention in Cuba. For that, he was eventually killed. Trump allowed himself to be "manipulated" into staying in Syria, withdrew from the JCPOA, executed a coup in Bolivia, attempted a coup in Venezuela and assassinated Suleimani. Trump is still alive, though perhaps his prudence in Ukraine and apparent determination to withdraw from Afghanistan convinced globalists to support the 2020 election theft.
There are two ruling political factions in the US today: globalists and US imperialists, with some blurring of the lines between the two. Globalists push a neo-feudal, worldwide system of elite, oligarchical influence, with actual control implemented by unelected technocrats selected by the oligarchs. Traditional Republocrats are united in their support of that system. Trump wants to MAGA, meaning the US should be in control of the empire, but still an empire that thinks nothing of intervening in other sovereign nations that might be of interest to elites but in no way threaten the security of average Americans. A pox on both their houses. I oppose all forms of empire, but if we must have empires and spheres of influence, Trump's vision is var less odious than the globalists. At least in Trump's (and the BRICS) vision there are other places to which dissidents may emigrate if conditions in one's home become unbearable. Trump is not the 2nd Coming, but in the globalist vision, there's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
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Emerald, Have you read JFK and the Unspeakable? It was the best thing I’ve read on the reasons behind the assassination of JFK. I intend to go back now and read your other articles about this subject. Very interesting.
Fascinating and riveting reading Emerald. The attempts to shape the people’s elective choice for President, in this case JFK, by unelected career bureaucrats of the CIA, is a perverse but reoccurring theme in American Federal Government.
This sounds quite familiar over and over again in history. I think JFK truly learned from this and I think he thought he could truly change the trajectory of government, to his obvious detriment. Yes, there is a DeEp StAtE. God bless JFK...I was a month old when he died in November of 1963.
George Carlin today: “Yes, there is a deep state, and you’re not in it!”
The intelligence committee has been a rogue element from its very inception. It was birth in corruption and has an agenda that purely self serving. Now it is obvious it has become the 4th branch of government who controls the entire political system. Currently one can not remain in politics and oppose the intelligence community.
The FBI will raid your home under falsely accusations arrest you and lock you up along side others who are languishing in the gulags in our nation’s capital.
And so:
Well, well this is extremely timely, reinforcing again the need to abolish the CIA, FBI immediately and with a view of eliminating all other intelligence gathering committees.
The reorganization of these types of intelligence gathering units should be accomplished by the most devoted of peoples those being true Patriots.
Enough already, we don’t need anymore politicians they think we need them because we’re incapable. I will insert this here:
right now everyone is just all in love with DeSantis but, remember you being extremely forgetful and foolish to trust again another politician, DeSantis above all things is another politician; I didn’t say bad I said politician.
We need folks who have good common sense God honoring God fearing people who love this country because it’s right thing to do. Which is to manage and take care of what has been given.
I continue to look to the day and I hope it’s soon when the 70% who are not brain dead will with conviction realize the need to get these rabid leaders out from behind the control levers. And appoint our fellow patriots to represent us.
Politics is a dirty business.
GREAT research in the past gone pages of history. The operative event here is the assumptions that CIA made to 'commit' JFK to deploy US forces. Everything I always read about this operation preposed the blame on JFK for pulling the air support. But indeed it was way more than that -- when the landing site was changed to a location that had all of the indicators of tactical failure. And fail it did. While JFK did this action (a frivolous decision) -- the CIA (and military Joint Chiefs) all concurred. All of this primarily because the CIA wanted to execute their 'own' foreign policy as opposed to the Commander in Chief and get a "little war" going. Excellent analysis Emerald!
Do I have this straight? Emerald primarily blames Kennedy for allowing the Bay of Pigs to go forward, for naively assuming that the "Deep State" would honor his commitment not to directly intervene and would call off the BoP if it were doomed to failure. Fair enough; the buck stopped at his desk, but he is blamed as well for NOT caving to the "Deep State," not committing to a full scale invasion that arguably would have led to a direct confrontation with the USSR and the potential for thermonuclear war. He had, "let Khrushchev see that he was weak." Eisenhower said he was primarily interested in PR? Where? If Kennedy had been primarily motivated by PR in the US, he would not have accepted the initial blame and embarrassment of failure. He would instead have caved to the "Deep State" and authorized the full US invasion, failure of which could more readily have been blamed on military planners. Instead, he accepted initial responsibility for the failure, though he tried to ameliorate the embarrassment by allowing the TRUTH to slowly come out, that the failure was a result of the "Deep State" attempting to manipulate him into an international crisis. If Eisenhower spoke of Kennedy's concern for PR, perhaps Kennedy had talked about international opinion rather than internal US public opinion. Was Kennedy naive? Yes. Weak? No.
I don't recall much criticism of Trump's naivete (or duplicity?) in allowing "Deep State" globalists to thwart his stated intention to withdraw from Syria. He embraced that manipulation and bragged about "taking their oil" instead of using the Turkish invasion of NE Syria as a face saving way to get out. He need not have appointed John Bolton as NSA, and he could have removed James Jeffrey from his position in Syria. The decision to remain in Syria was Trump's and Trump's alone.
I give Emerald credit for being true to the facts: the duplicity of the "Deep state" and its attempt to manipulate a naive President into intervention in Cuba. However, I'm not sure she fully understands who the enemy was then and is now: the "Deep state," now revealed as globalists -- the permanent bureaucracy including the CIA, FBI and now (as Covid-19 has revealed) HHS, all under the influence of treasonous globalists who meet frequently at the Club of Rome, G-7, WEF, CFR etc. Schwab brags about the placement of globalist Quislings in practically every country. Kennedy showed true courage. Having erred in initially trusting the CIA and military, he refused to be manipulated into full scale, frank intervention in Cuba. For that, he was eventually killed. Trump allowed himself to be "manipulated" into staying in Syria, withdrew from the JCPOA, executed a coup in Bolivia, attempted a coup in Venezuela and assassinated Suleimani. Trump is still alive, though perhaps his prudence in Ukraine and apparent determination to withdraw from Afghanistan convinced globalists to support the 2020 election theft.
There are two ruling political factions in the US today: globalists and US imperialists, with some blurring of the lines between the two. Globalists push a neo-feudal, worldwide system of elite, oligarchical influence, with actual control implemented by unelected technocrats selected by the oligarchs. Traditional Republocrats are united in their support of that system. Trump wants to MAGA, meaning the US should be in control of the empire, but still an empire that thinks nothing of intervening in other sovereign nations that might be of interest to elites but in no way threaten the security of average Americans. A pox on both their houses. I oppose all forms of empire, but if we must have empires and spheres of influence, Trump's vision is var less odious than the globalists. At least in Trump's (and the BRICS) vision there are other places to which dissidents may emigrate if conditions in one's home become unbearable. Trump is not the 2nd Coming, but in the globalist vision, there's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.
Very interesting. I have never really understood the Bay of Pigs fiasco, short of the movie, JFK.
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“Timberwolf” was one of 2 people briefed by J Edgar Hoover about the assassination of JFK. Interesting article.
https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/george-h-w-bush-shaped-history-but-not-the-way-were-told/
This is riveting, well written historical expose’. Well done. Did the CIA get its revenge?
From the Bay of Pig then to KABUL, Afghanistan now... foolish presidential blunders - (painfully) priceless
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Emerald, Have you read JFK and the Unspeakable? It was the best thing I’ve read on the reasons behind the assassination of JFK. I intend to go back now and read your other articles about this subject. Very interesting.